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Where is The Government of The US Headed ?
« on: February 06, 2021, 02:19:27 AM »

First off, let me say: "Opinions are Like Ass-Holes; we all have one." Now that that's out of the way, it's time to get serious.

Can't speak for anyone other than myself; I spent 8 years of my life with the US Navy helping to defend our country from Communism. It now resides in Washington in all branches of the government, from the president, vp, cabinet members, congress (Senate and the House). How'd they get there? They were voted in.

How'd this happen? it has been in the planning of the progressives (aka Democrat Party) for over 100 years. A little clarification here: Communism, Fascism, Nazism, Progressivism, Marxism, Socialism, are all pretty much one and the same except for the name. It's like putting lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig.

I don't know where you get your news; if you are getting it from ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, PBS, you are getting filtered news, or I should say "Guberment Propaganda." Fox News does feed you some BS but there are a few commentators on there that do spell it out in harsh and factual terms.

I've been around longer than most folks on this planet and have had more experiences than 10 people my age. I pretty much Know Bull Shit when I see and hear it. Our country is in deep shit and if we don't educate ourselves with real facts, this country is Doomed. We have less than two years to save it from what the progressives/commies have planned. There's another national election coming up in November 2022 for all House members, and one third of the Senate, time is running out.

If you think I'm spewing Bull Shit I'd suggest you look at what has happened in the white house just since 20 January 2021. Joe Biden has signed more than 40 Executive Orders as of 29 January 2021. I believe that is a record for all past presidents. He is operating like a dictator rather than the president of what is supposed to be a Free Country and a Democracy. If Trump had done this, the press would have been on him like stink on shit.

Time for me to crash for today. Still packing for the move Home with Dena. Had I known 25 years ago what a job this packing would be, I wouldn't have accumulated so much STUFF / crap. All I can do now is pack, pack and pack. It'll get done probably later than sooner.

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Re: Where is The Government of The US Headed ?
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2021, 03:31:33 AM »
Joe Biden has signed more than 40 Executive Orders as of 29 January 2021 . . operating like a dictator rather than the president of what is supposed to be a Free Country and a Democracy.

       These days the only difference between crony-capitalist America and the Communists is 'corporate big money' doesn't dictate policy in China like it does in America which, in many ways, gives them a distinct advantage.
Noam Chomsky, in REQUIEM FOR THE AMERICAN DREAM, sums up our dilemma quite well:


       'We The People' are the ones who accepted, endorsed and financed all of this with our patronage, overly dependant consuming ways, REJECT all big tech "social media" and insist on American made only? And what good is voting if the outcomes are predetermined through rigged machines and massive paid "harvesting" hell Americans, not to mention non-citizens, don't even need to get off their couch anymore!

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Re: Where is The Government of The US Headed ?
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2021, 09:01:21 PM »
                             Tuesday 16 February 2021

First, I'll answer my own Subject question:

Q. Where is The Government of The US Headed ?

A. Disaster; that's where.



We now have clowns running this country who are experts in only one thing: Bull Shit.

A prime example is AOC, a bartender from NYC, reelected to congress, expert in nothing of consequence,  trying to ram through legislation to force the residents of this country to live with the "Green New Deal."

Well, we just happen to have a prime example of what she wants, for all of us, right here in Texas. About 25% of the electricity produced and utilized here in Texas comes from wind farms and solar. Guess what, currently, they are producing next to NOTHING, Nada, Ziltch.

This is forcing power outages, rolling blackouts, water shortages (can't pump water without electricity). Green energy is not a reliable power source. The sun doesn't shine on solar panels 24 x 7; cloud cover reduces solar energy next to nothing. If the wind isn't blowing, wind farms are dead in the air. We need Nuclear and fossil fueled Power Generation, not Green Dream machines. The aforementioned power sources are clean and reliable.

What is Texas going to do? I haven't a clue; hopefully they will quickly realize the folly of the "Green New Bull-Shit Deal" pumped out by the party that wants total control over our lives, that's you, me and everyone else in this country . . . . except THEM / THEIRS.

It's up to you to become well informed on this subject and not rely on the propaganda put out by political clowns/hacks such as AlGore, AOC, John "Catsup Boy" Kerry, Michael "Hockey Stick" Mann, Joe "Rip Van Winkle" Biden, etc.

I didn't vote for any of these clowns and wouldn't if someone offered me money. We all need to become well informed as another Federal election, Senate and Lower House, is coming up in less than two years; one third of the Senate and all of the House.

Best Always, Love

Christine
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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2021, 06:21:01 AM »
                             Tuesday 16 February 2021

First, I'll answer my own Subject question:

Q. Where is The Government of The US Headed ?

A. Disaster; that's where.

What is Texas going to do? I haven't a clue; hopefully they will quickly realize the folly of the "Green New Bull-Shit Deal" pumped out by the party that wants total control over our lives, that's you, me and everyone else in this country . . . . except THEM / THEIRS.

    Christine what good is "voting" if the precedent is set, every election is now RIGGED? We need to stop letting guburment and media define what our real problems are because our "elected reps" are obviously bought off, beholden to big tech, corporate money and China (spending our otherwise useless dollars)!

    Have you watched Woody Harrelson's "Kiss The Ground" (on Netflix too)? Talk 'bout climate change we need to change the way we do industrial agriculture, being wholly hooked on Monsanto like we are, BEFORE WE ALL STARVE!

     And then there's youtube's "Gold & Dollar: How Money Became Worthless", with Wall Street and The Fed Reserve engaging in a huge Ponzi scheme that is destined for collapse!

     In the meantime . . all people want to do is COMPLAIN rather than take survival into their own hands. I 'ave 2kw of solar power  and an CNG fired 7.5kw genset that kicks on automatically don't even know when a power failure occurs!

Until "they" figure out a better way to get BIG MONEY out of elections WILL NEVER VOTE AGAIN! I reluctantly participated in the recent Georgia "runoffs" despite knowing in advance the outcomes and, with the exception of still sending Trump $10/month (lol fag money!), will never contribute to any election campaign again!

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Re: Where is The Government of The US Headed ?
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2021, 05:02:11 PM »

Well, we just happen to have a prime example of what she wants, for all of us, right here in Texas. About 25% of the electricity produced and utilized here in Texas comes from wind farms and solar. Guess what, currently, they are producing next to NOTHING, Nada, Ziltch.

This is forcing power outages, rolling blackouts, water shortages (can't pump water without electricity).

How can loss of 25% of power cause all that? where is the other 75%?

But the real reason Texas is in such bad shape are decisions made by the TEXAS government.

First most of the power generating facilities (including windmills) are not winterized or only partially winterized .... Which is why they froze up. What made it worst is that the Texas grid in not connected to teh grid from other states, so in this emergency they could not buy power from elsewhere to keep their people from freezing...

Why is Texas the only state not connected to a regional grid? Because they wanted to not be subject to federal regulation they thought unnecessary like having to spend money on things like winterization of energy generating facilities ... Wind mils have not failed like this in colder states or in the Nordic countries, because they were designed to take it.

Now this type of weather in Texas is rare, but not unknown... this was totally forceable as something that could reasonably be expected to happen eventually... but because it was rare they rolled the dice to save money, and they came up snake-eyes...

Texas has been run by conservatives for a long time. The windmills were installed not because of concern for the environment, but because they were/are cost effective... and still would have been if they had been winterized... though the power they generate would not have been quite as cheap...

But given what has happened, one has to wonder if was saving the cost of winterization and cutting off the Texas grid from the rest of the country was worth the consequences.

-Karen


 Green energy is not a reliable power source. The sun doesn't shine on solar panels 24 x 7; cloud cover reduces solar energy next to nothing. If the wind isn't blowing, wind farms are dead in the air. We need Nuclear and fossil fueled Power Generation, not Green Dream machines. The aforementioned power sources are clean and reliable.

What is Texas going to do? I haven't a clue; hopefully they will quickly realize the folly of the "Green New Bull-Shit Deal" pumped out by the party that wants total control over our lives, that's you, me and everyone else in this country . . . . except THEM / THEIRS.

It up to you to become well informed on this subject and not rely on the propaganda put out by political clowns/hacks such as AlGore, AOC, John "Catsup Boy" Kerry, Michael "Hockey Stick" Mann, Joe "Rip Van Winkle" Biden, etc.

I didn't vote for any of these clowns and wouldn't if someone offered me money. We all need to become well informed as another Federal election, Senate and Lower House, is coming up in less than two years; one third of the Senate and all of the House.

Best Always, Love

Christine

EDIT by Christine - 24 Feb 2021 - I edited the quoted part of this post to make it obvious who authored what. I have edited nothing in the way of written/typed content, just added the quote indicator and this note.
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Re: Where is The Government of The US Headed ?
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2021, 11:51:28 PM »
How can loss of 25% of power cause all that? where is the other 75%?

But the real reason Texas is in such bad shape are decisions made by the TEXAS government.

First most of the power generating facilities (including windmills) are not winterized or only partially winterized .... Which is why they froze up. What made it worst is that the Texas grid in not connected to teh grid from other states, so in this emergency they could not buy power from elsewhere to keep their people from freezing...

Why is Texas the only state not connected to a regional grid? Because they wanted to not be subject to federal regulation they thought unnecessary like having to spend money on things like winterization of energy generating facilities ... Wind mils have not failed like this in colder states or in the Nordic countries, because they were designed to take it.

Now this type of weather in Texas is rare, but not unknown... this was totally forceable as something that could reasonably be expected to happen eventually... but because it was rare they rolled the dice to save money, and they came up snake-eyes...

Texas has been run by conservatives for a long time. The windmills were installed not because of concern for the environment, but because they were/are cost effective... and still would have been if they had been winterized... though the power they generate would not have been quite as cheap...

But given what has happened, one has to wonder if was saving the cost of winterization and cutting off the Texas grid from the rest of the country was worth the consequences.

-Karen


Hi Karen,                    24 February 2021

I'm going to address your comments one at a time. But, before I do that, I'd like to know a couple things about your background.

Q1. What do/did you do professionally?

Q2. In want country do you live and if you live in the US, which state and city do you reside in?

Q3. What is your age?

Since I have asked you those questions I will answer them about myself first, so here goes:

A1. I have done a couple things professionally; I was an engineer, multi disciplined, Electrical, Electronic, Data Systems, Software, Management, Consultant. Electrician, Plumber, Carpenter, Mechanic, Law Enforcement Officer (LEO) and lastly Arborist (Climber, Rigger and Sawyer). I'm also a pilot, though I no longer exercise my pilot privileges.

A2. I was born in Akron Ohio USA in 1940; lived there 6 years. Moved to Cuyahoga Falls Ohio in 1946. Lived there until 1960, moved to Munroe Falls Ohio, which is right next door to CFO.

January 1963 I was drafted into the US Army. Rather than spend 2 years slogging through muddy terrain I joined the US Navy for 4 years. Being as how I wasn't very good at being Navy like, I was selected for a top secret project where playing sailor wasn't important. All they cared about was your technical qualifications. I was well qualified. Spent 6+ years with the project, 2.5 in the Navy and 4 as a civilian.

My civilian career was varied; worked in Defense, Process Control, Banking, Nuclear Power, Steel, Refining, Brewing, Environmental.

Was a Mechanic, Carpenter, Plumber, Truck Driver, Wrier, Editor, Cop and Arborist. What did I like best? Cop, Arborist and Writer.

I have lived in Japan, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Mexico, Southlake Texas and now make my home in Phoenix Arizona with Dena.
 
A3. I am 80, still have my faculties, no longer indulge in dangerous pastimes, don't consume alcohol, never used illegal / recreational drugs, no longer use tobacco (05 March will be 52 years).

I would appreciate you addressing my questions so I have a better idea where you are coming from.

Just a bit of additional information: I was without power for 2 hours, lost water pressure for 2 days. Didn't cause much of a problem as I had had my monthly shower about 2 weeks before the water dried up and I'm not due for my next shower until Monday 01 March 2021. All is back to quasi normal, meaning the weather sux and has been getting colder each year.

I am in the process of relocating to our home in Phoenix. Hopefully that will be completed by mid March.

I have had many extraordinary events in my life, which I am very proud of and eternally thankful for. In 2017 a wild female Coyote befriended me. I considered her friendship one of the greatest honors I had received up to that time.

In 2018 I received the greatest Honor of my life when Dena entered it. She is the Love of my life, which She has saved three times. Were it not for Her, I wouldn't be here today. Thank You Dena Dear, I Love You With All My Heart and Soul.

Without further ado, this post will go on-line in a few moments, after I review it for typos and scrambled thoughts.

Take care young lady, God Bless you and yours.

Best Always, Love

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Re: Where is The Government of The US Headed ?
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2021, 06:16:49 PM »
Christine,

Have to say I don't understand what all your questions have to do with responding to my post. None of it has a bearing on what the facts are.

While I may be wrong about it, the only reason I can think of would be that knowing the answers would affect how you judge what I say, or how you think I might judge what you say ... And I don't think either should be the case...

While we all have our own biases that we may be blind to, I know in discussons I try to be as objective as I can be... I don't think people should filter what they hear through preconceived notions about other people because of where they live what they do for a living etc... because people and life are more complex than assumptions based on such things.

As I have suffered 3D consequences from being too open about myself in the past on the open net, so I won't be too specific in answering your questions

Q1. What do/did you do professionally?
I work in biotech and always have worked in biotech or pharma

Q2. In want country do you live and if you live in the US, which state and city do you reside in?
USA ... In New England - Originally from a mid-Atlantic state.

Q3. What is your age?
I qualify for medicare... and it looks like I may not be able to keep my job much longer.

But if you want to get a better idea who I am you should know I came from a very difficult family situation I would not wish on my worst enemy (nothing to to with being T but that was there too) with no money in an inner city environment. My mother was a WWII refugee. My father was born in New England however both of his parents were immigrants - though from a different country than my mother.

I got a helping hand that got me out of a very bad home situation for high school. With no financial help from family (and a lot of family drama that made it harder and took  huge emotional toll) I got myself through college and then got a master's degree in a physical science while working full time. Both of my parents were factory workers - when they worked - and they separated when I was very young.

A lot more was involved, surfice it to say I have always carried the emotional scars from my childhood... They formed a lot of who I am and how I interact with the world and even how I feel about myself.

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Electrician, Plumber, Carpenter, Mechanic,

Those are skills I wish I had! The house needs lot of work and hiring good people (never mind finding them!)  to do it is expensive!

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January 1963 I was drafted into the US Army.

I just missed the draft ... If I had been just a little older, my life likely would have been very different! I remember worrying about it when I started high school. No connections (That famous CCR song comes to mind)


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I have lived in Japan, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Mexico, Southlake Texas and now make my home in Phoenix Arizona with Dena.

While I have moved a number of times, I have only lived in 3 states all with-in a 4-5hr drive of each other... Well, not completely true...

Back when I was too young to remember, my mother said we stayed for awhile with my godmother (whom I don't recall ever meeting) in Michigan... But that was only for a few months and then we came back to the city I was born in.

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  don't consume alcohol, never used illegal / recreational drugs, no longer use tobacco (05 March will be 52 years).

Glad you were able to kick the tobacco habit... my parents were smokers <yuck!>

I never drank or did drugs (and I was one of the few who did not in HS) or used tobacco. Despite being TS I have always been pretty boring! ;)

Oh Yes.. TS... If it matters I transitioned 1996 and had SRS in 1997.

But as I said, ideally  I don't think any of this should matter when discussing an issue... I guess that is the scientist in me! ;)

-Karen

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Re: Where is The Government of The US Headed ?
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2021, 02:10:37 AM »
Hi Karen,                   08 March 2021

Just so you know, I'm not ignoring you; I'm busier than a "One-Armed-Paper-Hanger" in a wind storm. I'm in the process of relocating to Phoenix from here in Texas. Been here longer than I ever expected; kind of crept up on me while I was doing things I enjoyed, flying, being a cop, working in trees, etc. Next thing I knew I had been here over 40 years. First time in my life I had been in one place longer than 8 years. Don't get me wrong, I did live other places while I officially lived here; just part of the business I was in.

All I wanted to say for you is above. Once settled into Phoenix life, I'll get back here and address everything. In the mean time please keep the hearth glowing; it'll help keep you warm.

Don't know how much news folks visiting this web site see or hear, but you really need to look at all the news services. Yesterday I saw clips of Joe Biden speaking from a lectern. This country was sold a bill of goods by the Democrat party. They told us Joe Biden was the right person for President of the US. What I saw was Joe Biden unable to even read a Teleprompter. He was befuddled, mumbling, and at times didn't even know where he was.

This is the individual that has the "Nuclear-Football," as it is known. He has already launched air strikes in the middle east for reason(s) not publicly stated.  Even the folks in the Whitehouse want that ability taken away. He has no business being president nor did he have any business running for it.

Now we're stuck with a fumbling, bumbling old geezer in the Presidency. Aren't we lucky. He is creating change: one crises after another.

I'm going to make a prediction: Joe Biden will be removed from the Presidency via the 25th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. It will happen close to early April 2021.

There has been wonderment as to who is really calling the shots in Washington. It is China, they and the Chinese Communist party are calling them.

You read it here. I hope I'm wrong; I was wrong once when I thought I was wrong and it turned out I was right.

Take care folks, do yourself a favor and watch all the news outlets. not just CNN.

Best Always, Love

Christine
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« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2021, 04:52:20 PM »
You do know Biden has a stutter that he usually (but not always) can keep under control... A stutter does not indicate an issue with mental acuity.

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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2021, 04:00:05 AM »
... A stutter does not indicate an issue with mental acuity.

lol I used to stutter A LOT . . why I tend to keep quiet . . and am used to being IGNORED? Christine my daughter just spent the week in Phoenix with "friends" from here but unsure WHY, have yet to catch up since back.

I think they'll probably keep Biden . . as long as he keeps doing as told! Major stock market crash and hyper-inflation is also predicted soon . . as our dollar becomes increasingly WORTHLESS? I completely stopped watching "TV news" why get angry & upset? He's gone too far with this "trans sports" thing damn "activists" are never satisfied, the BACKLASH is only getting worse, in many states it's now soon to be a FED criminal offense if a youth seeks help with transition?

Have always been DIY, btw, and proud of my "independence"
from all this non-sense!

THANKS for nothing Biden, suppose democrats will eventually do themselves in, and the solution would be to DO AWAY with state rights, autonomy all together?

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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2021, 07:52:42 PM »
Does anybody here watch Dr. Who (or did before the current one?... If only it was so easy to change sex! ;))

From wikipedia (about the Prime minister of Britain):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harriet_Jones

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The Doctor reacts furiously to what he perceives as cold-blooded murder and tells her that he can bring her down with just six words: "Don't you think she looks tired?" In the episode's dénouement, Harriet faces rumours of ill health and a vote of no confidence;[3] as the Master says that the members of his cabinet jumped ship to his party, it implies that Harriet survived the vote of no confidence and then lost an election.

Of course there were no basis in fact to her having a physical issue... it was a rumour the Doctor purposely started to remove her from power...

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Re: Where is The Government of The US Headed ?
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2021, 01:24:14 PM »
Hi Folks,                         21 March 2021

This is not a response to anyone's posts, just me sounding off on what I see happening to my country and yours. Why did I say my country? Because I have done more for this country than the majority of the people in it. I spent 8 years of my life helping to protect it. Approximately 7.3% of all living Americans have served in the military. Everyone of them did something for this country to keep it safe.

What did the other 92.7% do? Very little in my humble opinion. I can tell you that approximately 19.3% of the American population is on some form of welfare program. Gee, isn't that just great, almost one fifth of the population. And now this Genius NOT we have stuffed in the White House (Now Shit House) has opened our borders to any and all seeking "Asylum." What a fucking farce. These illegals are here for free shit because that ass-hole in the shithouse promised them asylum and more goodies than what a deserving legal US Citizen is entitled to.

Who the hell is going to pay for all this? Take a Guess; Those of us that have busted our asses to get somewhere. They'll tax the hell out of us to buy votes from the welfare/socialist crowd. It'll work until they run out of OUR money. Oh, I forgot, that genius barmaid AOC from new york shitty (doesn't deserve capitalization) says the Government can just print more money. What a fucking genius NOT that nitwit is, and she is in congress making decisions that affect the whole country. Holy shit!! Venezuela, here we "be-come."

All you that voted for and support this fucked up administration deserve the train wreck that is heading your way.

If'n anyone doesn't like what I have said, don't waste your time complaining to Admin because I are Admin (one of them if you will).

Best Always, Love

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« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2021, 02:02:35 AM »
        LOL I stopped watching "the news', it's all quite depressing, and now they also wanna do away with that unity farce called "reconciliation". It's ALL 'bout political power, plain and simple, we're obsolete-lazy-stupid-useless eaters and once they get EVERYBODY begging for handouts they think we'll do "as told" and run our lives like the CCP 'cause everyone knows an agenda dictatorship is sooo much more "efficient"  . . .

With "science & experts" running the show who needs freedom & privacy when us voting mole rats can 'ave free lunch and ethic/racial equality? It's Obummer 2.0 and we don't need guns and a border wall as long as the WH has barbed wire fencing?


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« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2021, 12:23:29 PM »
@Kiera
                    22 March 2021

Just viewed photos taken by a Democrat Congressman of the Biden Created Illegal Immigrant Disaster in Texas.

Thanks to all who voted for the ass-hole now in the shithouse. What a fucking joke our government has become. The world is laughing at you "Dumbocraps" and your ability to be brainwashed by the commie left.

For as long as the Commies/dems remain in power, it will only get worse. World history doesn't lie, just the "New Woke" shit does.

Busy, have to go; back later.

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« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2021, 06:46:27 PM »
     With "science & experts" running the show who needs freedom & privacy when us voting mole rats can 'ave free lunch and ethic/racial equality?

I really don't understand  where you are coming from.

Are you stay that during a pandemic, science and experts should be ignored?

In a civilized society personal freedom needs to be balanced with societal need... if someone is doing something that affects no one but themselves there is no issue.

Things like mask wearing, which in the scheme of things, is a very small inconvenience, but helps make everyone safer (and remember the more the virus is transmitted the high the chance for worst variants to emerge (and that is a fact of nature discovered by science and the experts)...

When a pandemic (particular when passed on by breathing) is raging out of control, until enough people can be immunized, the only proven way to slow it down is social distancing and mask wearing ... failing to control it would cause a lot more problems in the long run than the pain of the mitigation efforts.

IMO anyone who thinks their freedom gives them the right not wear a mask or socially distance in public, and so to endanger society as a whole, is at a minimum unpatriotic and extremely self centered.

As they say, your freedom ends at my (and everyone else's) nose...

If you have an issue with scientific advice on how to manage a pandemic, who do you think should be listed to and why? Those who's concern is more about their own political power or profits rather than people's health?

Sometimes there needs to be some sacrifices for the greater good. I wonder if during WWII people were protesting ration books....

And as to racial and ethic equality... are you saying it is right to discriminate against individuals based on the family were born into, or how they were born? Do you think that should be acceptable?

I find it very difficult to understand how a TS would think that was OK.

-Karen

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Re: Where is The Government of The US Headed ?
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2021, 02:41:47 AM »
... are you saying it is right to discriminate against individuals based on the family were born into, or how they were born? Do you think that should be acceptable?

I find it very difficult to understand how a TS would think that was OK.

       *sigh* I met "an operative" of the CDC on Saturday, unsure of official position, whose office was expecting "a visit from Biden" and neither him, wife or two kids were wearing a mask when, in parting, he offered to shake my hand? lol I gave him the standard fist/elbow bump instead-but point is the difference between "political correctness" and practice is glaring . . He said "had received the vaccine" (much younger than me?) so while supposedly immune isn't he still infected, could pass it on to me?

Didn't seem too worried at all.

      Contrary to what you may believe "we" are in another undeclared "WAR" and casualties on BOTH sides are to be expected. Better you than me? "Freedom to Discriminate", something that is based on who we CHOOSE to associate with, is a perfect natural right and the BACKLASH is at an all-time high compliments of your so-called "trans-activists" so I'd just prefer to fight my own battles thank-you-very-much!

Spend more time worrying 'bout "family", as many Mexican's do, and we wouldn't need such gov't intrusion at all? No idea how old you are Karen but your "hero experts" do not impress me in the least.

LOL Am I the "High Heeled Boy"?

Dear Mister Fantasy, play us a tune
Something to make us all happy
Do anything, take us out of this gloom
Sing a song, play guitar, make it snappy (yeah)
[Steve Winwood (Traffic 1967) and Eric Clapton]

If you smile at me, I will understand
Cause that is something everybody everywhere does
In the same language

I can see by your coat, my friend
You're from the other side
There's just one thing I got to know
Can you tell me please, who won?

Say, can I have some of your purple berries?
Yes, I've been eating them for six or seven weeks now
Haven't got sick once
Probably keep us both alive

Wooden ships on the water, very free and easy
Easy, you know the way it's supposed to be
Silver people on the shoreline, let us be
Talkin' 'bout very free and easy

Horror grips us as we watch you die
All we can do is echo your anguished cries
Stare as all human feelings die
We are leaving, you don't need us

Go, take your sister then, by the hand
Lead her away from this foreign land
Far away, where we might laugh again
We are leaving, you don't need us

And it's a fair wind blowin' warm
Out of the south over my shoulder
Guess I'll set a course and go
[WOODEN SHIPS ~ CROSBY STILLS NASH]


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Re: Where is The Government of The US Headed ?
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2021, 04:19:23 AM »
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If you have an issue with scientific advice on how to manage a pandemic, who do you think should be listed to and why? Those who's concern is more about their own political power or profits rather than people's health?

I'm assuming you are referring to Politicians vs Scientists. I prefer to believe folks that have proven themselves honest, knowledgeable and experts in the subject area; this rules out the likes of Bumbeldin, Pukealoski, Kornrow Hairball, et al. Amazing thing about the political class, they get elected to office and they are now experts in everything. Truth is they usually don't know jack shit; example; that simpleton known a AOC, a fucking barmaid in congress making decisions for 300+ million people.

Sometimes there needs to be some sacrifices for the greater good. I wonder if during WWII people were protesting ration books....

Yes, there were complaints and cheating, mainly by the political class. I was there, still have ration books from that era, with my name on some.

Governor Nonsense (CAL) and Andy Crummbo (NY) Ask the 15,000 folks that died because of Gov Crummbo. The folks in CAL are now showing their pleasure in how Gov Nonsense is running the show in CAL with a Recall.

And as to racial and ethic equality... are you saying it is right to discriminate against individuals based on the family were born into, or how they were born? Do you think that should be acceptable?

Depends upon what you mean by "equality" another new Woke progressive fantasy. You make your own equality by proper upbringing, study, hard work, treating others fairly, acting like a decent human being, not associating with the dregs of society (He who lies down with dogs will get up with fleas) You are judged by the company you keep.

Do I owe you anything more than respect? No I don't. I can choose to or not to socialize with whomever desires to socialize with me. No one else has a right to force me to accept someone I know nothing about. I associate with folks I have something in common with. I think most folks feel that way.

Most of my friends are military vets and some are still active, though the latter are becoming more rare, a factor of time.


If the current nonsense going on in the Biden administration and our out of control guberment, isn't corrected soon, we won't have a country. We'll be swarming the Mexican border demanding to be let in. Fat chance they'll accept us.

Prediction: Before the end of Bumbledin's first year in office, the Chinese military will be in this country as occupiers. Their military are already here dressed as civilians.

I'm tired and need to get some sleep. Take care y-all.

Best Always,

Christine


Christine 24 March 2021 - Minor editing to help clarify a few statements.
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Re: Where is The Government of The US Headed ?
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2021, 04:27:51 PM »
Prediction: Before the end of Bumbledin's first year in office, the Chinese military will be in this country as occupiers. Their military are already here dressed as civilians.

<sigh>

I have no idea where this type of thing comes from... To me it looks like it is totally at odds with reality as i know it.

-Karen

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Re: Where is The Government of The US Headed ?
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2021, 05:04:24 PM »
      Contrary to what you may believe "we" are in another undeclared "WAR" and casualties on BOTH sides are to be expected.
I'm not at war with anybody... But I do have strong disagreements with some.

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"Freedom to Discriminate", something that is based on who we CHOOSE to associate with,

I think you know I was not taking about who you are friends with... I was taking about treating people by who they are as individuals , not prejudging them by their their race, ethnicity/country of origin, religion etc and recognize that different does not equal bad.

I was born in the US but my mother was refugee from another country and I grew up bilingual ... My father was born in the US but both of his parents were not.

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is a perfect natural right and the BACKLASH is at an all-time high compliments of your so-called "trans-activists" so I'd just prefer to fight my own battles thank-you-very-much!

My TS activitists? Some I have a lot of issues with... Don't know if you know who she is, but when I met Gwen Ann Smith (a well known T activist)  about 20 ears ago, we argued for an hour... That said while i agree some go way too far and are counter productive, and they certainly have make being able to be stealth lot harder, some have done some good as well. Not every one CAN be stealth no matter what they want, and vert fw can do so from day 1 so some protections are a good thing.

But my point about being TS is the assumptions people make out who we are because of all the erroneous beliefs/prejudices they have about TSes because they just can't understand it, think it os all bout having kinky sex, and/or they feel its against their religion.

People deserve to be judged as individuals.

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Spend more time worrying 'bout "family", as many Mexican's do, and we wouldn't need such gov't intrusion at all? No idea how old you are Karen but your "hero experts" do not impress me in the least.

I'm old enough to be on Medicare... and the first time I heard "The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys" I was in high school. If you saw my album collection you would know about how old I am! ;) (I do  have a bit CSN and CSNY)

In any case Not hero experts , and not individual scientists, but the body of work of science as a whole. Fauci is not just giving his own opinions  he is presenting the consensus  of the scientist working in that field , both those that work for him but also teh published works of other in peer reviewed journals. Being an expert in the field himself lets him have a deep understanding of teh work and it's implications which makes him good advisor to this ein charge... And I think there is ample evidence that teh outcome of not fooling his advice was not good.

-Karen

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Re: Where is The Government of The US Headed ?
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2021, 02:33:25 AM »
Hi Folks,                        18 April 2021

To answer my own question in the Subject Header: "Totalitarian Communist Tyranny and Dictatorship" compliments of the Dumbocrap Party and Fumblin, Stumblin, Bumbledin. If they get their way, you won't have to worry about the next election . . . . There won't be one!!!

I hope to God I am wrong, but I seldom am. There's only one hope remaining.

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