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« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2020, 11:55:47 AM »
Okay fine enlighten me please.
Tissue inside your mouth SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT from what is on your leg, butt or male member, which is the source of donor tissue for your neovayina

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« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2020, 01:07:34 PM »
Cells that fall under the blanket term of "epithelial" are found in many different places in the body.  Epithelial mostly just means that they tend to make layers, kind of like you find in membranes, skin, etc.  Plenty to learn about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epithelium

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« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2020, 01:40:31 PM »
Heidemarie,

I'm sorry if this sounds harsh, but he isn't men. He is a man. And a lovely one. One whom you know nothing about.
And liking something is not demanding or expecting it, nor did his words, actions or expressions imply anything to the contrary.

I guess I should perhaps be more circumspect regarding what I disclose. I've been uncharacteristically open on this thread, and that may have been a mistake. Oh well... I'll think about it later... I really need to go now...
zirconia,


I am very sorry if I offended you with my earlier post and I sincerely apologize if I did. I guess I was getting on my soapbox a bit and was talking in general terms (which is dangerous too, I know). I certainly was NOT talking about you or the man closest to your heart in particular. Sorry if I messed up.


Please accept my apologies.


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« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2020, 02:17:38 PM »
So l guess what seems so diffcult for some to understand, or ar intentionally trying to ignore is the very obvious DIFFERENCE between the tissue inside your mouth and the outside if your butt, leg or penis.
Simple FACT. What is inside your mouth feels/acts much differently and BETTER than plain dry skin.

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« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2020, 03:39:12 PM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mucous_membrane

"A mucous membrane or mucosa is a membrane that lines various cavities in the body and covers the surface of internal organs. It consists of one or more layers of epithelial cells overlying a layer of loose connective tissue."

Anyway the punchline is that epithelial cells or epithelial tissue isn't just one kind of tissue.  That stuff is found all over your body and comes in different forms.

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« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2020, 05:26:06 PM »
For persons with an intact foreskin, they can also invert this, which is also a mucous membrane from it's inside, if they need more of such skin.


Interesting. However, the inside of my foreskin (I mean the part that touches the head of the penis) doesn't seem to be very mucosal...


Or are you saying that the entire penile skin is a mucus membrane on its inside, which is the reason it glides so easily along the penile shaft? If that is the case, why do they turn it inside out to form a neo vagina?

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« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2020, 10:23:35 PM »
@zirconia I as an Austrian gal myself can't see any reference to your personal experience made by @Iztaccihuatl

I think it was just a expression of what we as a culture (over here) see.

Thessa

Does something you see as a culture automatically apply to an individual whom I personally... dare I say it... may be in love with?

Heidemarie said that what he told me (in what happened to be a private and lovely moment) made her cringe.  For all the reasons that she then put forth.

Note that this was in reference to a friendly and open discussion between someone whom I very much like and who likes me.

...which prompted me to  feel that I probably shouldn't be as candid as I've been. At least about anything at all involving anyone other than myself. If my words make me a target for disapproval that's one thing. If, on the other hand, I expose someone dear to me to completely unwarranted censure that is something different altogether. And WRONG.

I hope you now understand a bit better what it felt like to me. And what I meant above.


Complete,

thank you...❤️ It's concrete information based on experience like yours that I really need and find helpful...
And I do thank you for your support... I'm pretty much able to imagine scenarios myself... but its what happens and has happened in real life that counts...
It's wonderful that you were able to get what you needed. No lube and no dilation... I really want that as well. On the first try, if possible.


Skin is made up of epithelial cells.

Madame... thank you.
... I guess I don't know how to put this, and apologize if I'm totally off, but somehow this didn't sound like you wanted to be just purely helpful. I think Complete's intent in using the word she did was clear. If there was a need for additional precision, might it not have sounded more friendly to just suggest a better term?


Heidemarie
Thank you too. I do understand you didn't intend to make me feel bad.

However, what happened made me realize how painful all this this talk of male supremacy chauvinist whatever whatever seems to me. All the men I know—or all the ones I feel close to—value their friends, families, betrothed, and work as best they can to help and support them.

I'm sure there are many men who aren't like that, but doesn't the same apply to women as well? And the only person I know personally whom the world would be better without is a woman.

We're simply programmed differently, and our biology affects our actions and traits. To see increasingly vicious attacks on what makes men men feels incredibly sad to me.


Anyway... that's not what I wanted this thread to be about.


At the moment it seems that only Thessa and Complete currently find men to be lovable lovely exciting beings with whom it is possible to do things that make one feel incredibly blissful. And that I'm the only other one who seems predetermined to be part of that group.

There's plenty of talk about femininity and lesbian relationships and whatnot on every board. But practically no transitioner's point of view analogues to what my new elder sister™️ Ù©( ᐛ )Ùˆ  and I would talk about when alone, or anything else we'd discuss with my other friends in the real world.

Are the plain and simple heterosexuals truly this tiny a minority?

It makes me feel somehow lonely.
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« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2020, 06:41:57 AM »
Madame... thank you.
... I guess I don't know how to put this, and apologize if I'm totally off, but somehow this didn't sound like you wanted to be just purely helpful. I think Complete's intent in using the word she did was clear. If there was a need for additional precision, might it not have sounded more friendly to just suggest a better term?

I was trying to be helpful.  However many people take offense to being told "you're using the wrong word there" no matter how you dress the statement up.


Between this site and the other one, it would appear that hetero trans women would be in the minority. It may be that the majority of hetero trans women do not frequent such websites. They may just be preoccupied with whomever their partner is.

I think you're right.  At least what I've noticed is that a lot of younger transitioners tend to be hetero (at least more than those who transition later).  And people who grew up staring at facebook just don't use online forums it seems.  <Insert obligatory "millenials are ruining the internet" statement here>

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« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2020, 06:55:47 AM »
Madame,

OK... thanks❤️... and my apologies for doubting your motives. m(_ _)m

I agree that it's always nice to point out factual errors while at the same time offering the scientifically accurate terminology. After all, that's how we learn.

I myself have also always wished I had the courage to do so, whenever I've seen someone on the forums e.g. call a vulva a vagina. ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

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« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2020, 07:43:22 AM »
Thank you for your response. And for being glad for me...

Percentages... yes...

Since Thessa says she's pansexual, the only heterosexual post-op who has responded to recount her personal experiences so far is Complete. Out of a membership of over 200 isn't that more like 0.5%?  Maybe I'm just feeling moribund today, but... I do still feel lonely...

It may be that the majority of hetero trans women do not frequent such websites. They may just be preoccupied with whomever their partner is.

Hi, Lady,

Yes... I do see what you mean. If so, I guess that to balance the membership of this site (minus you and Complete and Moni) there must be about 97 women who similarly to Complete have basically just moved on, and are now living normal lives at a distance from the trans community.

I hope that really is true. It definitely makes my future prospects look brighter. As I've mentioned, I really dreaded taking the first step, because I was absolutely terrified of getting stuck somewhere in between—and still feel momentary terror every now and then. In that sense I really would like to see more people like Complete here. It would hugely encourage everyone with feelings like mine...

I really want and need to just leave all the pain behind and live once I'm through with surgery...
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