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Staff Political Blog / Re: Staff Blog feature added to the site
« Last post by karen_A on Today at 08:29:23 PM »
I originally missed that a part of the post was to me. After this I wonderments add any more to this thread.

       No Evidence? Facts? Proof? Nobody ever looked, too cowardly afraid of *real violence & threats* to ever "get involved"?

Lots of people looked hard... and that includes republicans who we in charge of elections  who had voted for him, and came up with nothing substantive.

 
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Anything based solely on 4 years+ of SHEER HATRED and LIES via omission (SUPPRESSION) is all one needs for one to be put down regardless  . . . Are we just willfully dumb or is the excuse a "recent college education", yer just *smarter* than the rest of us God fearing, workin' class "deplorables"?

Education level is not a great indicator of intelligence level in and of itself, and deep knowledge in one arena does not necessarily transfer to others. Anyone is capable of believing what they want to or need to, regardless of the truth.

In terms of lying Trump lied so many times over so many things large and small, some so inconsequential as to to even worth lying about! With that it is hard to believe anything he says! All that is well documented.

IMO enough people saw he was a self centered narcissist, who really had no basic principle and did and said whatever he thought benefited him in some way. He never sees beyond himself IMO.

I think that is why he lost so many women in the suburbs who normally voted republican.

So no, it's not about being tough nor not... It's about having principles or not, being trustworthy or not as well as the policies.

BTW there was a lot of hating on, and lying about, the previous president...
 
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NO COVID/lockdown/job loss here by all means Give Us More Free, increasingly worthless, Money!

If more people had followed the CDC guidance and had worn masked and socially distanced enough in the beginning (and if the president had not minimize the danger and discourage mask wearing and politicized it) likely a lot fewer people would have died... and things would not be as bad as they are now...

The facts of virology are apolitical... they should never  have become political <sigh>.

Now, until we get to herd immunity through immunization, things are going to be hard.. I have reached an age where many have retired ... I sure as heck am doing all I can to minimize the chance I might get covid-19... if one is unlucky, even if not the severe in an individual, it can do long term damage that affects the quality of life.

It is not something to be taken lightly, even if most recover.

-Karen
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Staff Political Blog / Re: Staff Blog feature added to the site
« Last post by karen_A on Yesterday at 09:02:28 PM »
Circumstantial evidence exist and it is acceptable in court of law.

If it is strong enough and there are no other reasonable explanations , sometimes... For now all I will say is that 60 plus court cases were brought and you know the outcomes.

I repeat everyone is entitled their own opinions but but their own facts...

 "Selective facts" never tell the whole story... and are very dangerous in this situation IMO as they tend to be framed to reinforce preconceptions... and that is often the problem  with "circumstantial evidence" too... it is too prone to be viewed through the lense of existing beliefs/preconceptions/prejudices rather then examined objectively... so should always be looked at skeptically

I will take a look at the other thread when i have time... If I reply after i read it,  I hope any disagreement is not seen as silencing.

BTW I had discussion at work recently with a conservative who is ex-military, on his last day (friday) he come to my area to say good bye and that  the political discussion he had with me was best he had with someone who disagreed with his positions.

-Karen
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Staff Political Blog / Re: Staff Blog feature added to the site
« Last post by Dena on Yesterday at 07:34:53 PM »
I had another one of my headaches over the week end and was attempting to sleep it off. There was a reason for not allowing you to start threads in this area. Political arguments often break out because of misunderstandings so I thought the alternative would be for me to start that would provide enough facts that all would understand the argument and we would have a better base for a discussion. This thread was intended to explain the direction I was taking with the site and why. Conservative voices continue to be silenced and this could be come one of the few refuges for the other side to voice their opinion.

You are stating a common belief that there is no evidence of fraud but not all evidence is a smoking gun. Circumstantial evidence exist and it is acceptable in court of law. There should be physical evidence as well but the problem is building a case could take as much as a year but there was only a little over a month to build a case. I will put up a thread where we can discuss the topic because there is much more that has been covered in the mainstream news. I will not respond to the issue of evidence in this thread as it would be off topic and we wouldn't have a proper base for discussion. I have put up part of the proof in the inauguration protest thread but I will carry it into the new thread and expand upon it.
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My opinion is the reason research took a drop because of the great society and the Vietnam war. Before that time, nearly every company had a Research and Development lab to produce better products. I feel that because in increased taxation, R&D departments were shut down and the research that took place was mostly at the government or school level. It couldn't match what was taking place at the private level so we stopped advancing at the previous rate.

As someone who has spent their whole career in R&D and is now close to retirement, from the inside it looked like it had more to do with R&D getting more expensive as much of the low hanging fruit had been picked, meaning lots of project failures and/or long development times. That  combined with the emphasis on short term profitability si what happened IMO.

In terms of the lack of R&D jobs, more recently that was due to outsourcing much of what R&D the is both on shore and offshore to CROs (Contract Research Organizations)

And yes industry "collaborating" with academia, that has dirt cheap highly educated, though poorly paid  labor in graduate students and post-docs, as well as the government supported basic research.

Companies take every opportunity to be as profitable as possible and the bean counters recognized these things were a LOT cheaper than in-house R&D, regardless of taxes, and thus give (at least in the short term) the biggest ROI.

-Karen
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One of the reason tend to follow Glen Beck is because he is willing to have conversation outside of the echo chamber. In my work with software, I learned a long time ago the only way to find some software bugs was to think out of the box. It's true in day to day life and politics. For at least 15 years, I have looked at both sides of politics and played them against each other in my mind.

Glen Beck made a pod cast with Eric Weinstein who has always voted Democrat. I found that I can agree with much of what he said though if I were to meet him in person, I would like to suggest an alternative to his view of 1970-1980. My opinion is the reason research took a drop because of the great society and the Vietnam war. Before that time, nearly every company had a Research and Development lab to produce better products. I feel that because in increased taxation, R&D departments were shut down and the research that took place was mostly at the government or school level. It couldn't match what was taking place at the private level so we stopped advancing at the previous rate.

I think if you have an open mind, you will find this pod cast enlighten and you will also find it's possible for both sides to talk with each other, expressing their views without an argument. You can either download it as a pod cast or view it on Youtube at Why Eric Weinstein Is Finally Talking to Glenn Beck | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 93. The run time is an hour 28 minutes. I hope you enjoy it.
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Staff Political Blog / Re: Staff Blog feature added to the site
« Last post by Kiera on January 17, 2021, 06:46:44 AM »
The other problem is the origins of the progressive party covers around 80 years so . .
     Dena, you referring to my Georgia's SLAVE BEHOLDIN' Democrats that was quite prevalent here not that long ago? Am told our local KKK stopped their annual in-town march only 'bout 30 years past!

that I know of...
Ah! The CRUX! Nothing to see here . . been watching which news source?

     No Evidence? Facts? Proof? Nobody ever looked, too cowardly afraid of *real violence & threats* to ever "get involved"? Anything based solely on 4 years+ of SHEER HATRED and LIES via omission (SUPPRESSION) is all one needs for one to be put down regardless  . . . Are we just willfully dumb or is the excuse a "recent college education", yer just *smarter* than the rest of us God fearing, workin' class "deplorables"?

Heard Roger Stone's wife (thought he was "gay"?) was recently beat to crap!

Trump's (lack of) character is why he got defeated... It disgusted too many people...
Oh really? TOUGH GUY is disturbing? And now we got "nice, business as usual" Biden? That all these new House lesbians can BOSS around? Dena, sorry, see no "unity" possible or point in talkin' to "delusionals" will try and "chill" and try not to enjoy the next 2-4 year destruction of everyone's otherwise cherished "way-of-life".

NO COVID/lockdown/job loss here by all means Give Us More Free, increasingly worthless, Money!
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Staff Political Blog / List of Those 10 Republicans . .
« Last post by Kiera on January 17, 2021, 05:49:14 AM »
 . . who voted Impeach Trump (thx for nutin' NYTimes).

John Katko of New York
Liz Cheney of Wyoming
Adam Kinzinger of Illinois
Fred Upton of Michigan
Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington
Dan Newhouse of Washington ('state" need we specify soon?)
Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio
Peter Meijer, a freshman congressman from Michigan
Tom Rice of South Carolina
David Valadao of California


      My new girl, Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia wants to immediately IMPEACH BIDEN but unsure a good idea, VP nutcase Harris takes over sooner than later (who would replace her as VP)?

Dena, NOONE cares about FACTS, what actually happened at the Capital last week ('cept perhaps media fearfully "virtue signalling"). They 'ave The Power, combined with Hatred, and are doing it regardless (all politics) . . . to ensure their continued POWER over us.
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Blogs / Re: Christine's Transition Adventures
« Last post by Christine on January 17, 2021, 01:23:59 AM »
Hi Folks,                    17 January 2021

Still packing, seems like the more I pack, the more I find to pack. Is this a never ending project? It sure seems like it. One problem is I'm on the anal side when it comes to doing most things; in this instance the boxes, must be heavy duty, which I'll explain later. All new boxes have to be assembled (yes, new boxes are not fully assembled when you buy them) meaning, the bottom end must be closed and secured before you can put stuff in them and expect it to be there when the boxes get to their final destination.

First thing I do is glue the flaps with strong wood/carpenters glue (Titebond II or III) and then tape with good quality clear heavy duty packing tape. You will need something to weigh the flaps down so they become firmly secured to each other. Once it has cured start loading; when full, secure the top in the same manner the bottom was secured. Be sure you have something covering the goods inside so glue won't end up on things you don't want it on; this goes for the bottom before loading and the top before closing. Yesterday's news paper works well as does wax paper.

The final step is strapping the boxes, going around the top and bottom. I use poly strapping with metal poly strapping seals. Why the metal seals? This stuff isn't being mailed (metal seals not permitted by the USPS) so metal seals are OK. I'm sure you have received a package with strapping and no visible seals. Yes, that is the ideal; the overlapping ends are thermally welded together. I looked around a good bit and finally found the tool to do that task, weld poly and polyester strapping. Works very well, is easy to use and saves time. It automatically tightens the straps welds the straps together and cuts the strap on the strap supply side. This is an efficient way of doing this job and produces a very fine outcome. The down side is about $3000.00 for the device vs. about $200.00 for the manual tools and seals. Since this is a "one time" project, we didn't see an overwhelming need for the high tech tool. Yes, I'd love to have it and it would speed up our packing, but not $2800.00 worth.

Ok, it's later. I use heavy duty boxes because the low priced boxes cannot stand up to heavy loads, rough handling, stacking, and a myriad of other issues. I had packed some boxes two years ago in anticipation of this move (yes it has been a long time in coming), buying the low price standard boxes sold by Home DePot. One of them has split just sitting on top of the stack, the others that have boxes stacked on them are crushing and bulging at the seams. It was a penny wise and pound foolish mistake. If I were going a short distances and no rough handling was possible, the low priced boxes may have sufficed. In our instance Heavy Duty is key to getting our belongings safely there and minimizing the risk of damaged and/or lost personal belongings and/or household goods.

We are using a portable container from a company called "Cool Box Storage" headquartered in Tucson Arizona (kind of handy as Arizona is where our stuff is headed). The container is 20' L x  8' W x 8' H, 1280 cubic feet of storage and is sitting in our driveway. We sure hope this will suffice for the stuff we have going to Phoenix. Our cars will be shipped via an enclosed car hauler. I met a couple, wife and husband that have a huge enclosed trailer with two decks (stacks the cars) and living quarters behind the cab of the Semi Truck that pulls the load. It's as fully equipped as a fine motor home. The whole rig is over 80 feet. They haul vehicles all over the country most of the year. They seem to enjoy their profession and lifestyle.

Looks like closing date is 29 January unless the Escrow company finishes their work earlier. . . . . I hope. Everything is in place, financing has been arranged, paperwork on our side is done, so it's a waiting game. The house is vacant and will need some remediation as the owner is a smoker and that's one item Dena nor I can tolerate. I know, I'll go off on a tangent here, but I cannot understand how anyone can smoke knowing what we now know about this horrible addiction. I smoked in my younger years, quit 05 March 1969, almost 52 years ago. I and all the buddies I grew up with smoked. They didn't quit and all are gone. Why'd I quit? I smelled so bad after coming home from a long business trip, where I had been driving most of the day. Once home I tried to take a nappy and couldn't because of the strong smell of stale cigarette smoke on my clothing, not to mention my breath. That was my epiphany; haven't smoked since, not even one drag. Had I not quit when I did, I know I wouldn't be here today. When I have an "Echo Cardiogram" the damage from the approximately 10 years I smoked is still evident. Contrary to what Linde says on the Refuse site, damage from smoking does not heal, just stops from getting worse.

That's it for this edition. Back to sorting and packing our stuff. Hope all of you have remained safe and healthy. Take care all.

Best Always, Love

Christine
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Staff Political Blog / Re: Staff Blog feature added to the site
« Last post by karen_A on January 16, 2021, 12:28:09 PM »
Why did we we decide to do this? Prior to the election, all of the major networks were backing and protecting the Democrats while attacking the Republicans. Had the hidden information been available, the outcome of the election would have been a good deal different.

What hidden information? And I am not taking about conspiracy theories or things blown out of proportion.

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The day after the election, there was sufficient proof to know that the Democrats had tampered with the election.
Really? Then why ddi teh county challenges before conservative judges fail?

While there was likely some shade dealing on both sides, the is no CREDIBLE EVIDENCE that anything rose to anywhere near the level needed to change teh election outcome that I know of... That is why the challenge went nowhere.

IMO these types unsubstantiated claims that have been lobbed by the right for years is what is tearing this country apart. I know you  believe them. I know MOSt (but fat rom all) who say these this really do believe them... by with out proof spreading them is harmful...

As the old saying goes, everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, but not their own facts.

All the available , provable, verifiable information available says the election was not affected in any material way by any tampering or fraud. Any other conclusion is an opinion contrary to teh known facts...

And besides that common sense would say if thee was fraud on the left down ballet races would not have got more republican in he house where teh Democrats lost seats and the certainly would have gooey 51 seats in the senate. That is not proof, but it is consistent with there not being widespread fraud by the democrats.

When Trump was elected there was symbolic opposition to his election but no one seriously though it was due to widespread election fraud.

Trump's (lack of) character is why he got defeated... It disgusted too many people...

IMO  to say the election was fraudulently decided is basically demonizing democrats because you disagree with their basic philosophy, as there are no objective FACTS that back that up. There are only opinions  formed on what comes down to prejudice against those who's philosophy one does not agree with and a  willingness to impute criminal behavior because of that.

-Karen
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Staff Political Blog / Re: Staff Blog feature added to the site
« Last post by Dena on January 16, 2021, 07:49:06 AM »
I am glad that somebody is reading my posting. I have four posts currently in the works and the progressive party is causing a real problem. I have had three books for a long time about the progressive movement but I need a fourth that was ordered yesterday. It should get here next week and that will solve one problem. The other problem is the origins of the progressive party covers around 80 years so yes, it's going to be one of my very long posts. I find it amazing that people know so little about a political partly that dates to the early 1800's. On the other hand, remaining invisible to the public was by design. It might have been necessary when you understand the history and goals of the progressive party.
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